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  When did the WTS begin to require baptismal candidates to answer 2 questions. What were they?

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  i need some research done so if anybody has the time, please see what you can find on the subject as stated in the title.. i clearly remember attending my first circuit assembly.

  on october 30, 1956, i definitely answered two questions, along with about ten other people including my mother, not at the assembly, but we were standing at the side of a small baptismal pool that was in the basement of a kingdom hall in ronkonkoma, then a small hamlet on long island in the town of islip, suffolk county, new york, united states.. i know for a certainty that in 1945 candidates for baptism were not asked any questions but they were informed through their congregation that there would be a baptism and told where and when it was to be held.

  usually the baptism was done at a beach and when candidates showed up in bathing attire, they were dunked, no questions asked.. so sometime between 1945 and 1956 two specific questions began to be asked of candidates.

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  Pete Zahut

  Baptismal questions from the May 1, 1973 Watchtower, p. 280:

  (1) Have you repented of your sins and turned around, recognizing yourself before Jehovah God as a condemned sinner who needs salvation, and have you acknowledged to him that this salvation proceeds from him, the Father, through his Son Jesus Christ?
  
  (2) On the basis of this faith in God and in his provision for salvation, have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to God to do his will henceforth as he reveals it to you through Jesus Christ and through the Bible under the enlightening power of the holy spirit?

  Thanks people.....sounds like I can still live up to my dedication to God without specifically having to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I walked away a few years ago and have had people indicate that I have turned my back on Jehovah or that I was reneging on my promise to him. It's nice to be able to quote these open ended questions now and prove that isn't the case. (no wonder they changed question #2....they needed to close that little loophole)

  Pete, (love your last name) They may have changed the word God to Jehovah. I don't remember but until the big change in the 80's the vows were pretty much the same.

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  When did the WTS begin to require baptismal candidates to answer 2 questions. What were they?

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i need some research done so if anybody has the time, please see what you can find on the subject as stated in the title.. i clearly remember attending my first circuit assembly.

  on october 30, 1956, i definitely answered two questions, along with about ten other people including my mother, not at the assembly, but we were standing at the side of a small baptismal pool that was in the basement of a kingdom hall in ronkonkoma, then a small hamlet on long island in the town of islip, suffolk county, new york, united states.. i know for a certainty that in 1945 candidates for baptism were not asked any questions but they were informed through their congregation that there would be a baptism and told where and when it was to be held.

  usually the baptism was done at a beach and when candidates showed up in bathing attire, they were dunked, no questions asked.. so sometime between 1945 and 1956 two specific questions began to be asked of candidates.

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  Pete Zahut

  Does anyone know what the questions would have been in 1974 when as a kid, I was frightened encouraged into saying "yes" to, just before they dunked me?

  Seems like a good idea for me to know what they were, all those years ago.
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  Please Give Me Your Thoughts On Unusual Elderly Behavior....(thanks)

  by minimus in

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  my girlfriend's dad who is 82 lost his second wife to cancer last october.

  while she was dying, he secretly was seeing another woman, in her 60s.

  long story short, a month after the wife's death, they both moved in together and in early june , they secretly got married.

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  Pete Zahut

  Some men do think with their pee-pee, young or old. (a quote from my husband, Irreverent)

  Some women use their Va-Jay-Jays to get men to think with their Pee-Pees, in order to get what they want-want.
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  Why I Refuse to Accept the term APOSTATE

  by Black Man in

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  been going back in forth with my mom (who is a longtime pioneer and dyed-in-the-wool jw) about the term apostate.

  she has labeled me one because of my fading and because i stopped attending meetings a few years ago.

  i told her that i refuse to accept the term apostate because its a lazy way for the wts to not deal with dissenters and address why people are leaving this organization in droves.

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  Pete Zahut

  It was them who changed the truth from what it was when I was baptized....not me.
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  Why I Refuse to Accept the term APOSTATE

  by Black Man in

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  been going back in forth with my mom (who is a longtime pioneer and dyed-in-the-wool jw) about the term apostate.

  she has labeled me one because of my fading and because i stopped attending meetings a few years ago.

  i told her that i refuse to accept the term apostate because its a lazy way for the wts to not deal with dissenters and address why people are leaving this organization in droves.

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  Ask your Mom if she realizes that the founders of the JW religion were Apostates from their fomer belief system and were likely hasseled by thier former friends. Apparently being called Apostate, didn't bother them or stop them.
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  Did it bother you that they taught, "miss a meeting and you'll fall away?"

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  how many times did we hear that if we dont attend meetings we will leave the truth because satan will get ahold of us?

  that always bothered me.

  i thought, "if my faith isn't able to stand alone what good is it?

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  "I'm not opposed to the concept of a Deity but I'm baffeled by the notion of one that takes attendance."
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  JW.ORG REPORTS THE WATCHTOWER RESPONSE TO EBOLA

  by NAVYTOWN in

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  i just checked the jw.org website and noticed an article about the jw response to ebola.

  as i suspected, the entire focus was on alerting and educating jw members about ebola.just like in other disaster situations, the jw organization almost exclusively assists it's own members, ignoring the general public.

  it seems their main concern is keeping their members healthy so they can continue to spread the jw message door to door!!!

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  Pete Zahut

  Isn't widespread disease part of what would be happening in "THE END" ? On one hand they are looking forward to the end and often giddy with delight when any thing like this happens. Then on the other hand they are trying to thwart the progress of it with bleach water.
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  Most Jdubs are nice people, not really evil - give us all a break from this

  by hamsterbait in

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  The evil is so incideous that it isn't apparent even to themselves. It develops so gradually and only becomes evident after it has become well established and when one comes to a crossroads between doing what the organizaton wants and being humane.
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  Opps! 2015 Calendar with errors

  by pixel in

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  to all congregations in the united states branch territory.

  re: 2015 calendar in english.

  if many publishers in your congregation have requested the 2015 calendar in english,.

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  Pete Zahut

  We are writing regarding the 2015 Calendar in English that will be shipped to congregations
  beginning mid-October. Some copies of the 2015 Calendar in English contain errors.

  It sounds like they still have the incorrect calendars in their possesion and are going to ship them anyway. Putting the wrong Date on things never stopped them in the past.....why worry about it now?

  Additionally, the calendars that contain errors also emphasize starting Bible studies on
  the first Saturday of each month.However, as noted in the December 2014 Our Kingdom Ministry,
  this arrangement will be discontinued as of January 2015.

  I always found it odd that they'd emphasize starting Bible Studies on certain days. Isn't that the whole purpose on any day spent in field service? Looks like they realized that themselves.

  I notice that so many of the odd things I noticed while growing up as a JW, are now being corrected. It seems like the "new guard" is doing a little housecleaning. I expect them to do away with presenting the Watchtower at the doors. I never understood why anyone who wasn't a JW would want to read them.
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  Frieking Bethel Heavies/COs and their second rings!

  by lambsbottom in

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  dude, every picture i see of any bethel heavies or gb members (a lot of cos also) have them wearing a second huge gold ring!

  this is a clear sign of "hey i'm a bigshot!

  " you just dont see that in interviews of celebrities or politicials.

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  Pete Zahut

  Probably trying to prove they are long suffer-ring.